Monday, 5 October 2009
12:59 < PerlJam> https://lighthouse.tamucc.edu/DNRNotes/ITMeetingTemplate
12:59 < PerlJam> er, http://lighthouse.tamucc.edu/DNRNotes/ITMeetingTemplate
12:59 < PerlJam> (you don't need to view it via https :)
13:00 < PerlJam> But please read it again as there are some subtle changes :)
13:00 < PerlJam> T-0 minutes!
13:00 < HerrDokt0r> theRealCashcraft: you've been on MSN all weekend, as well.
13:00 < PerlJam> theRealCashcraft: you're up
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> 1. How many hours can you work this week? (this one is really only for the students)
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> --8 hours.
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> --very little, was only able to come in for a few hours on Friday.
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> --The CS departments quest to eliminate my time this semester
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:00 < theRealCashcraft> --myself
13:01 < theRealCashcraft> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:01 < theRealCashcraft> --coming into work
13:01 < theRealCashcraft> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:01 < theRealCashcraft> --negative
13:01 < theRealCashcraft> ---end---
13:01 < PerlJam> afterefx?
13:02 < PerlJam> redwards?
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 1. 20
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 2. I've been reading the book on the Web OS I ordered. Its great! Has tons of detail and is really helpful for knowing what the heck is going on with the palm pre dev stuff.
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 3. Graphics? Parallel?
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 4. Not really
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 5. More of the same...still plugging away. Probably going to meet with Dr. King this week to make sure I'm go on my proposal stuff (content of the app)
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> 6. Not really that I can think of. Kat's machine died one day this week, she thought it was the keyboard and chase and I looked at it and come to find out it was just a frozen machine. We did a hard reboot and it came back fine. Probably nothing, its windows after all.
13:02 < HerrDokt0r> ===End-----
13:03 < PerlJam> Hmm. I don't see jrod
13:03 < PerlJam> hamez: you're up.
13:03 < hamez> come back to me (technical difficulties)
13:03 < PerlJam> dbcooper: you're up then
13:04 < dbcooper> 1. How many hours can you work this week?
13:04 < dbcooper> A: N/A
13:04 < dbcooper> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:04 < dbcooper> A: Got Kat's PC on TAMUCC domain, finished GIS course CD, ringle data collection (still working on graphing interval issue), meetings.
13:04 < dbcooper> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:04 < dbcooper> A: Dr. King and my perfectionism.
13:04 < dbcooper> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:04 < dbcooper> A: Chris or Chase, possibly?
13:04 < dbcooper> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:04 < dbcooper> A: MX records for our DNS, graph interval problem, Catalyst benchmarks controller.
13:04 < dbcooper> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:04 < dbcooper> A: I have a Dr.'s appointment Tuesday AM. James has agreed to cover me (support phone). I'll be in class (regular times) on Tuesday and Thursday.
13:04 < dbcooper> EOL
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13:05 < PerlJam> PerlJam?
13:05 < PerlJam> 1. As many as are needed within reason.
13:05 < PerlJam> 2. Got afterfx setup with his own dev environment so that he can work on the new Catalyst-based software. Worked some on the sitevisit controller. Met with Josh, Niall, James, and Greg regarding height mod database.
13:05 < PerlJam> 3. No.
13:05 < PerlJam> 4. Just the usual brain-storming, status-checking stuff.
13:05 < PerlJam> 5. Setup a real running instance of PharosWeb (at least) on proto. Pondering installation issues. Hope to finish the sitevisit controller and move on to the . I've got some NTRIP stuff to do this afternoon.
13:05 < PerlJam> 6. I'm leaving at 9:00am tomorrow for a trip to Austin with Stacey. I won't be back until late that day.
13:05 < PerlJam> We've had a request to put the forecasts as a tab like we have the datums/benchm
13:05 < PerlJam> arks/sitevisits/etc. I don't think we need to do anything about it now except f
13:05 < PerlJam> actor it into our thinking for the new system.
13:05 < PerlJam> queue 3 questions.
13:05 < PerlJam> END OF LINE.
13:05 < PerlJam> hamez: Are you able yet?
13:06 < PerlJam> oops ... "more on to the ." should have been "move on to the other controllers."
13:06 < hamez> 2. just about finished pq
13:06 < hamez> 3. not really
13:06 < hamez> 4. maybe
13:06 < hamez> 5. final touches on pq, whatever's next for Pharos
13:06 < hamez> 6. reminder: I'll be out Thursday afternoon and Friday
13:06 < hamez> EOT
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13:07 < PerlJam> jrod3: you're up! :)
13:07 < jrod3> one sec...sorry guys
13:08 < hamez> dbcooper: what happens while you're in class (as far as on call support goes)
13:09 < dbcooper> afterefx is working on a school project due today. I told him to jump in here later today (when he has time).
13:09 < dbcooper> hamez: Phone on vibrate, go outside (the classroom) and handle the call.
13:10 < dbcooper> I always have my laptop w/ me, so I should be able to handle any support issues.
13:10 < jrod3> ----------------------INCOMING---------------
13:10 < jrod3> How many hours can you work this week?
13:10 < jrod3> 15 +
13:10 < jrod3> What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:10 < jrod3> mET W greg and IT3D for height mod database project
13:10 < jrod3> Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:10 < jrod3> Nope
13:10 < jrod3> Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:10 < jrod3> Nope
13:10 < jrod3> What do you plan to work on this week?
13:10 < jrod3> Redesigning database for Height mod to meet new criteria talked about in meeting
13:10 < jrod3> Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:10 < jrod3> Nope
13:11 < jrod3> ------------------end--------------------
13:11 < dbcooper> afk, brb
13:11 < PerlJam> Okay, I've got a few questions: What happened with MS Project last week? Did Rizzo get setup? Are the admin staff setup with a shared drive?
13:12 < PerlJam> Also, HerrDokt0r, school is never a reason for lack of progress. It's just school. :)
13:12 < HerrDokt0r> PerlJam: fair enough
13:12 < hamez> re: MS Project, still waiting for my MSDN subscription (I emailed Larry Young again this morning)
13:12 < theRealCashcraft> parallel programming and graphics say differently
13:13 < hamez> re: shared drive, working on it today (forgot to include in my #5)
13:14 < PerlJam> ok
13:14 < PerlJam> Any other questions or comments?
13:16 < HerrDokt0r> nein
13:16 < PerlJam> If no one has any objections, I say we're done.
13:17 < theRealCashcraft> as you will!
13:18 < dbcooper> I second closing the meeting.
13:18 < PerlJam> Then we're done!
Monday, 12 October 2009
13:01 * PerlJam sounds the meeting gong *BONG*
13:01 < PerlJam> cashcraft1: you're up
13:01 < cashcraft1> 1. How many hours can you work this week? (this one is really only for the students)
13:01 < cashcraft1> --8 hours
13:01 < cashcraft1> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:01 < cashcraft1> --Didn't make it in last week because of parallel and stats tests
13:01 < cashcraft1> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:01 < cashcraft1> --Midterms
13:01 < cashcraft1> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:02 < cashcraft1> --Not at this point
13:02 < cashcraft1> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:02 < cashcraft1> --Plan to meet with Josh this week, he has offered to teach me how to use git (*hint* knowledge sharing *hint*)
13:02 < cashcraft1> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:02 < cashcraft1> --Not that I am aware of
13:02 < cashcraft1> ----end-----
13:02 < PerlJam> afterefx: next!
13:03 [Users #dnr-is]
13:03 [ afterefx ] [ cashcraft1] [ hamez_] [ jrod ] [ pmichaud] [ rysan]
13:03 [ cashcraft] [ dbcooper ] [ j0hn ] [ PerlJam] [ redwards]
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13:03 < PerlJam> Can afterefx not make this time?
13:03 < dbcooper> PerlJam: Unsure. I haven't heard from him today.
13:03 < cashcraft1> I thought we moved it up to help him?
13:03 < PerlJam> anyway, we'll skip him for now
13:03 < PerlJam> redwards: next!
13:03 < redwards> 1. 20
13:03 < redwards> 2. I haven't met with Dr. king yet like I wanted to, but I've been working on my proposal mostly last week. Didn't get any coding done or any playtime done with the dev kit. So many other labs due right now its been tough to get on that, but I'm gonna try and be better about it this week.
13:03 < redwards> 3. Just other classes, but Scott said that wasn't a progress halter
13:03 < redwards> 4. Not yet
13:03 < redwards> 5. I really do need to catch Dr. King and make sure the proposal I'm writing/developing is on the right track. That way I can start coding already.
13:03 < redwards> 6. Not that I'm currently aware of. Though I will say I've been working remotely a lot, between classes and what not.
13:03 < redwards> ++++++++++++++++END+++++++++++++++
13:03 < jrod> -----------------JROD------------------------------
13:04 < jrod> How many hours can you work this week?
13:04 < jrod> 15+
13:04 < jrod> What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:04 < jrod> Got database script -- ERD diagram -- Git setup on my desktop and getting familiar with it -- crash course on catalyst w scott
13:04 < jrod> Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:04 < jrod> Nope
13:04 < jrod> Do you need some face time with one of IT3D?
13:04 < jrod> Thinking about setting up another meet with IT3D and greg to go over design of database again now that we have a new design
13:04 < jrod> Maybe Code review on Friday
13:04 < jrod> What do you plan to work on this week?
13:04 < jrod> Make database, touch up on parser, research catalyst
13:04 < jrod> Is there anything else that we should be aware of?Any new business?
13:04 < jrod> \
13:04 < jrod> ------------------END JROD---------------
13:04 < PerlJam> hamez_: next?
13:04 < hamez_> 2. hmm, that was a long time ago...
13:04 < hamez_> 3. vacation :)
13:04 < hamez_> 4. need to help Josh with svn
13:04 < hamez_> 5. pharos!
13:04 < hamez_> 6. not that I can think of
13:04 < hamez_> EOT
13:05 < hamez_> sorry about my answer for #2
13:05 < hamez_> I'm having some problems recalling
13:05 < PerlJam> hamez_: quick sidetrack ... we're going to be using git from now on for new stuff. Help Josh with git rather than svn :)
13:05 < PerlJam> dbcooper: next!
13:06 < dbcooper> 1. How many hours can you work this week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: N/A
13:06 < dbcooper> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: {meridian,lighthouse}.cbi.tamucc.edu e-mail issue, field support, Catalyst "chained" actions (wandering in the dark), setup Rose's outlook w/ Google calendar, setup new stations, meeting(s), e-mail
13:06 < dbcooper> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: Non-coding work interruptions.
13:06 < dbcooper> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:06 < dbcooper> A: Doubtful.
13:06 < dbcooper> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: Catalyst benchmarks controller.
13:06 < dbcooper> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: I have a Dr.'s appointment Wednesday AM. I'll be in class (regular times) on Tuesday and Thursday. All are on the calendar.
13:06 < dbcooper> EOL
13:06 < hamez_> ok, will do
13:06 < PerlJam> PerlJam: next!
13:06 < PerlJam> 1. How many hours can you work this week?
13:06 < PerlJam> As many as needed
13:06 < PerlJam> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:06 < PerlJam> - Went with Stacey and Gary to TxDOT meeting to see if we couldn't get them to open
13:06 < PerlJam> their NTRIP output to contain ephemeris corrections (I think). The meeting went
13:06 < PerlJam> well, but they are proceeding with *extreme* caution.
13:06 < PerlJam> - Worked on sitevisit and monthly controllers some. Still need to finish both.
13:06 < PerlJam> - cleaned up some of the existing code.
13:06 < PerlJam> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:07 < PerlJam> Nope
13:07 < PerlJam> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:07 < PerlJam> I'd like to meet with IT3D sometime tomorrow to have a quick code review
13:07 < PerlJam> and to see where we're all at. Also, we need to discuss how we're going to do pd.
13:07 < PerlJam> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:07 < PerlJam> - finish sitevisit and monthly controllers and start working on pd in some way.
13:07 < PerlJam> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:07 < PerlJam> - Thursday I'm going to a meeting of the Port Industries Technical Committee
13:07 < PerlJam> where they're going to give me more info on this Toxic Inventories Report
13:07 < PerlJam> that we will be working on for them (if everything goes well)
13:07 < PerlJam> END OF LINE
13:07 < hamez_> when do you want to meet tomorrow?
13:07 < PerlJam> Sooner is always better for me.
13:08 < PerlJam> You guys pick a time.
13:08 * dbcooper rolls 1d12.
13:08 < dbcooper> 10am
13:08 < hamez_> 9 AM?
13:08 < PerlJam> split the difference?
13:09 < hamez_> works for me
13:09 * redwards questions dbcooper's luck with a 1d12 at getting a 10 o.O
13:09 < dbcooper> 9:50m?
13:09 < dbcooper> *am
13:09 < PerlJam> dbcooper: split the difference equally? :)
13:09 < dbcooper> 1/2 * 100 = 50, right?
13:09 < PerlJam> 9:30am it is (you forced my hand dbcooper :)
13:09 < dbcooper> redwards: I used an online die roller page, http://www.brockjones.com/dieroller/dice.htm
13:09 < dbcooper> Hehe.
13:10 < jrod> hamez_: scott and niall went over git with me on friday so im all set up on my desktop with the remote repository on meridian. Scott also walked me through the steps of adding/committing/cloning/pulling/etc...
13:10 < cashcraft1> haha nice
13:10 < redwards> dbcooper: I missed our game this weekend, even though I'm overloaded this week
13:10 < hamez_> jrod: awesome, so I'm off the hook
13:10 < PerlJam> hamez_: nah, the hook is just not as big.
13:10 < dbcooper> redwards: "Ardinas longs for the glory of battle! ...And refers to himself in the 3rd person."
13:10 < hamez_> but let me know if you have any questions
13:10 < redwards> dbcooper: lol
13:11 < jrod> hamez_: okay np
13:11 * redwards announces that he is starving and immediately following the close of this meeting will be going out for food.
13:11 < PerlJam> Any other work related discussion?
13:12 < dbcooper> I'll e-mail Chris and see if the 1PM meeting is inconvenient for him.
13:12 < PerlJam> dbcooper: good deal
13:12 < redwards> PerlJam: can we have a golfcart with spinners to drive from DNR to our classes?
13:12 < redwards> It'll need subs too
13:12 < PerlJam> redwards: only if you find the funds to pay for it.
13:12 < redwards> I'm sure there's a grant out there..
13:12 < hamez_> I think I saw a grant for that
13:12 < cashcraft1> PerlJam: ryan loves writing grant proposals, I'm sure he wouldn't mind
13:12 < PerlJam> redwards: if you find the funds or get someone to donate such a thing, you can certainly use it.
13:13 < redwards> cashcraft1 / jrod: hear that boys? WE're ridding in style to class.
13:13 < jrod> redwards dont forget the dice hanging off the mirror
13:13 < redwards> jrod they will be d20's
13:13 < jrod> Riding spinners!!! they dont stop.....
13:14 < cashcraft1> redwards: we should put hydraulics on it as well while it's still in the proposal phase, better to have more than less
13:14 < redwards> I motion to adjourn the meeting so that I can find nourishment
13:14 < PerlJam> Anyway ... any other *work* related discussion?
13:14 < hamez_> http://www.golfcarcatalog.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&theParentId=1298&id=4130
13:14 < jrod> we can keep driving over the speed bumps to act like we have them
13:14 < redwards> lol thanks @hamez for that link. It's going in the proposal.
13:15 < PerlJam> I'll take that as a "no".
13:15 < dbcooper> PerlJam: What do you want to do, re: Zimba project?
13:15 < cashcraft1> PerlJam: none from me
13:15 < PerlJam> dbcooper: oh, I'd totally forgotten about that.
13:15 * redwards 's stomach growls angrily
13:16 < redwards> Zimba sounds cool
13:16 < PerlJam> dbcooper: We'll talk about it briefly tomorrow. So, nothing for now.
13:16 < PerlJam> (but it would be nice to know if they've got a instrument setup that we can talk to)
13:16 < PerlJam> Anything else?
13:17 < dbcooper> Also, I'm not sure why the ipmodem management script(s) are giving the "unknown station" error on pbcurr and spcurr: https://lighthouse.tamucc.edu/qc/190
13:18 < dbcooper> Both stations (added last week) are in dnrattr.dat and in the var/stnattr.dat files.
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13:18 < hamez_> hmmm, I'll take a look at it
13:18 < dbcooper> The IPModem.pm module spits out that error when StnAttr() doesn't return the station lookup, but when I run it from the command line (as pobot/pharosdb), it works fine.
13:19 < PerlJam> okay
13:19 < redwards> so are we all good in da hood?
13:19 < dbcooper> Nothing big, polling works, etc., but I thought it was a weird error.
13:20 < PerlJam> anything else?
13:20 < redwards> nein
13:20 < dbcooper> I'm empty.
13:20 < hamez_> out
13:20 < dbcooper> Lightning talks?
13:20 < dbcooper> Want to set a date for them sometime in the [near] future?
13:21 < PerlJam> db-empty-but-I'll-still-spring-something-on-you-cooper
13:21 < dbcooper> Either that or a presentation thingey.
13:21 < cashcraft1> fridays are probably going to be the only for sure day of the week I could make
13:21 < redwards> /agree with cashcraft
13:21 < dbcooper> PerlJam: Well, it just popped into my head. We've talked about it several times over the last few months.
13:21 < cashcraft1> for lightning talks that is
13:22 < PerlJam> Let's talk about LT next time. I haven't thought much about them in a while and we need to see where we are at.
13:22 < dbcooper> I'm trying to follow Columbo's "one more thing" thing.
13:22 < dbcooper> Ok.
13:23 < redwards> i can haz cheezburger nao?
13:23 < PerlJam> however, a "presentation thingy" might be good, at least in-the-IT-house, for things like git or Catalyst or MVC in general, or other useful concepts
13:23 < redwards> PerlJam: I'd be interested in hearing about Cataylst
13:23 < dbcooper> Yeah. I'm assuming an it-only audience [at least focus].
13:24 < PerlJam> What's the minimum lead-time would you guys need as an audience?
13:24 < PerlJam> (i.e. if you weren't presenting, but just listening)
13:25 < redwards> lead-time as in time before we're told when a presentation was?
13:25 < PerlJam> yeah
13:25 < redwards> a day at minimum
13:25 < redwards> friday's really do work best for that kind of stuff since we have no classes
13:26 < redwards> but if you pick a time slot that you know won't go 'over time' during when we all work then that'd be ok too
13:26 < PerlJam> yes, it'll be on a friday ... just don't know which :)
13:26 < PerlJam> (also, consider that presentations would be mutually exclusive with game days)
13:26 < dbcooper> After mid-terms, before finals.
13:26 < PerlJam> when are mid-terms?
13:27 < cashcraft1> right now lol
13:27 < cashcraft1> last week i had 2
13:27 < cashcraft1> this week i have one
13:27 < cashcraft1> however, I would be good to go as long as I had at least a days warning
13:28 < PerlJam> okay, we can talk all talk about it this week and plan something out. Next week, we should have a plan.
13:28 < PerlJam> Sound good?
13:28 < dbcooper> Hai
13:28 < dbcooper> !
13:28 < cashcraft1> sounds good
13:29 < PerlJam> okay, without waiting for a motion or a second, I say we're done!
Monday, 19 October 2009
13:04 < dbcooper> Oh crap. Meeting.
13:04 < PerlJam> er, DING!
13:04 < PerlJam> cashcraft: you're up!
13:04 < redwards> afterfx: While I may not understand the math behind it, I also don't think you need it 100
13:04 < redwards> %
13:05 < cashcraft> 1. How many hours can you work this week? (this one is really only for the students)
13:05 < cashcraft> --8 hours
13:05 < cashcraft> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:05 < cashcraft> --Met with Josh about git, tried setting up public and private keys, yet had a problem with it working on proto (will meet with Niall on this later this week).
13:05 < cashcraft> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:05 < cashcraft> --Probably just some ssh settings on my proto account
13:05 < cashcraft> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:05 < cashcraft> --See above
13:05 < cashcraft> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:05 < cashcraft> --Will email Scott my public key (once I get it working on proto) for access to git repository
13:05 < cashcraft> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:05 < cashcraft> --negative
13:05 < cashcraft> --end--
13:06 < PerlJam> afterefx: next!
13:06 < afterefx> 1. How many hours can you work this week? (this one is really only for the students)
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ 4 hours on Friday, for sure
13:06 < afterefx> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ rtas is coming along, most of the work is done. Just 1 or 2 things left
13:06 < afterefx> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ Other than a lack of a good working knowledge about template toolkit, perl, and pharos + school. Nothing is stopping me.
13:06 < afterefx> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ Still riding around pharos with training wheels
13:06 < afterefx> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ Something that Scott can give me that I can do on my own.
13:06 < afterefx> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:06 < afterefx> ⁃ School is still throwing a lot of stuff my way. Not as much as last week. So it looks like it's going to be a little smoother sailing from here to finals.
13:06 < afterefx> ---- eof ---
13:06 < PerlJam> redwards: next!
13:07 < redwards> 1. 20
13:07 < redwards> 2. I spoke with Dr. King and I've revised some of my proposal. He told me which sections weren't really neccessary for what he wanted, and he is after all, all that matters in the end. I also read some more into trying to get perl working on the Palm Pre, and it seems doable. Though I'm pretty sure I'll do the GUI in javascript
13:07 < redwards> 3. 2 Labs due on the same day :(
13:07 < redwards> 4. Not really
13:07 < redwards> 5. More of the same...
13:07 < redwards> 6. Not that I can think of really.
13:07 < redwards> =============+END+=================
13:07 < redwards> ***Sorry I hate clutter so I always omit the questions, we've seen them all 1000 times anyway
13:07 < jrod1> 1.) 15.
13:07 < jrod1> 2.) Continued working on database.
13:07 < jrod1> 3 an 4.)NOpe Nope
13:07 < jrod1> 5.) working on catalyst stuff, creating sql statement with parser
13:07 < jrod1> 6.) Nope
13:08 * PerlJam assumes that's the end of jrod1's stuff
13:08 < PerlJam> hamez: next!
13:08 < hamez> come back to me
13:08 < PerlJam> dbcooper: next!
13:09 < dbcooper> A: N/A
13:09 < dbcooper> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:09 < dbcooper> A: Some progress on Bmarks controller, meetings, e-mail, miscellaneous user requests (not many)
13:09 < dbcooper> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:09 < dbcooper> A: School, taxes, sleep deprivation. Did I say school (poor form, I know).
13:09 < dbcooper> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:09 < dbcooper> A: Not unless Chase needs some time.
13:09 < dbcooper> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:09 < dbcooper> A: Catalyst benchmarks controller.
13:09 < dbcooper> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:09 < dbcooper> A: I'll be in class (regular times) on Tuesday and Thursday. All are on the calendar.
13:09 < dbcooper> EOL
13:09 < dbcooper> Err, my first answer is to question 1, How many hours can you work this week?
13:09 < PerlJam> hamez: are you still composing?
13:09 < hamez> si
13:10 < PerlJam> me too :) This one kind of snuck up on me
13:10 * hamez too
13:11 < PerlJam> okay, I'm up
13:11 < PerlJam> 1. Na
13:11 < PerlJam> 2. Lots of changes to sitevisits and other stuff. Helped afterfx with rtas. Ran new Cat app through Devel::Cover and Devel::NYTProf and got some interesting results.
13:11 < PerlJam> 3. Nope
13:11 < PerlJam> 4. Maybe
13:12 < PerlJam> 5. Not sure yet.
13:12 < PerlJam> 6. I'll be helping Rick Smith on Wednesday in the morning.
13:12 < PerlJam> END OF LINE
13:13 < PerlJam> oh wait! Not the end for me.
13:13 < hamez> whew, I was about to post
13:13 < PerlJam> I met with the Port Industries Technical Committee last week. They want to hire a student to collate some data and generate some reports for them.
13:14 < dbcooper> PerlJam: Was that related to the project Dr. Needham was asking John about?
13:14 < PerlJam> They'll be pitching the idea of using us to the managers of the member organizations on Oct 27 and we'll know soon after if we're working on it.
13:14 < PerlJam> dbcooper: yes.
13:15 < dbcooper> hamez: Are you interested in either Kat's or Rose's desk?
13:15 < hamez> hmmm, maybe
13:15 < hamez> they're getting new furniture?
13:15 < PerlJam> So ... I need a volunteer (student) to do this work. Or if any of you know of someone who would be interested in a job here with us, that could work too.
13:15 < dbcooper> The furniture moving will occur around Thursday or Friday.
13:16 < dbcooper> Apparently we're getting old graduate studies furniture, like Gina's and Sara's desks.
13:17 < redwards> dbcooper: for what purpose?
13:17 < dbcooper> PerlJam: We had some suggestions from the students/quality instructors.
13:17 < dbcooper> redwards: Eh? Purpose?
13:17 < redwards> dbcooper: the desks/furniture?
13:18 < PerlJam> redwards: there doesn't have to be a *reason*. It's just 'cuz :)
13:18 < PerlJam> hamez: are you ready?
13:18 < hamez> 2. got a good start on messages, lots of field support
13:18 < hamez> 3. no
13:18 < hamez> 4. would like to check in w/ Josh
13:18 < hamez> 5. finish messages, start on gstnmap
13:18 < hamez> 6. I will be taking vacation next Thursday (10/29) through the following Monday (11/2)
13:18 < hamez> EOT
13:19 < PerlJam> okay ...
13:19 < jrod1> hamez: how does wednesday sound?
13:19 < hamez> works for me, what time?
13:20 < jrod1> umm any before 4 ( i have a class)
13:21 < PerlJam> cashcraft: what problems did you have making your ssh key?
13:21 < hamez> jrod1: 2 pm?
13:22 < jrod1> hamez: perfect!
13:22 < cashcraft> PerlJam: I couldn't get the public key working on proto, I had it working on other servers though, however Ryan just informed me it could be due to permission settings, (which I hadn't thought of)
13:23 < dbcooper> cashcraft: Would you like to meet?
13:23 < PerlJam> cashcraft: what do you mean by "working"? It wouldn't save your keys to disk?
13:23 < cashcraft> dbcooper: if the permissions works, then there will be no need to meet, I will let you know later if there continues to be a problem
13:23 < dbcooper> Ok.
13:24 < cashcraft> PerlJam: It didn't recognize the key, (allow me to log in without a password)
13:24 < cashcraft> I didn't think to check permissions on the .ssh file though
13:24 < PerlJam> cashcraft: But you were able to generate the public key?
13:24 < cashcraft> yes
13:25 < cashcraft> and I got it working with other servers, such as penguin and clst (the sci servers)
13:25 < cashcraft> so I know the key works, I just couldn't get it to work on proto
13:25 < PerlJam> that's all that's required for using git; the login stuff doesn't matter
13:25 < cashcraft> okay, well I'll send you the key tomorrow when I'm in the office
13:27 < PerlJam> cashcraft: btw, it might be a problem that you're home dir on proto is /u2. /u2 is cross mounted to meridian, lighthouse, and proto. If you run ssh-keygen on any of those machines it will clobber whatever key you generated on the other machine(s)
13:27 < PerlJam> s/you're/your/
13:27 < PerlJam> (i.e., you should only run ssh-keygen once (on any of those machines) and be able to use it on all of them)
13:28 < cashcraft> ah okay, that also could have been my problem then
13:29 < cashcraft> I'll look into it further but other than that, I'll still be sending you the key tomorrow
13:29 < PerlJam> If you care to leave the key that you generated, I could just use the one that's there now.
13:30 < PerlJam> (that way you could enable worrying about git instead :)
13:30 < cashcraft> That would be fine
13:31 < PerlJam> okay, I'll grab your current key then.
13:32 < cashcraft> Thanks :)
13:32 < PerlJam> hmm. maybe not. you've got an extra level of indirection in your .ssh dir.
13:32 < PerlJam> I'll let you sort that out first, then you can send me your key :)
13:33 < cashcraft> haha alright, I'll get on it tomorrow
13:33 < cashcraft> thanks for trying though
13:33 < PerlJam> dbcooper, hamez: afterefx uncovered something interesting by making RTAS work.
13:33 < dbcooper> The secret to cold fusion?
13:33 < PerlJam> interesting in a bad way.
13:33 < hamez> he found jimmy hoffa?
13:33 < redwards> dbcooper: have you seen the movie 'the saint'?
13:33 < dbcooper> redwards: Unfortunately, yes.
13:34 < redwards> dbcooper: why is this unfortunate?
13:34 < PerlJam> that's why I was playing with Devel::NYTProf, I was profiling rtas
13:34 < PerlJam> regular http requests to http://localhost:3000/rtas were timing out, so I poked around a bit as to why
13:35 < PerlJam> redwards: not enough elizabeth shue scenes
13:36 < dbcooper> redwards: While Ms. Shue is hawt, the movie seemed to devolve into "let's dress up Val Kilmer in a bunch of costumes" and present Ms. Shue as a hyper-intelligent mathematician who can't be bothered to work through all 4! ways to arrange some super duper equation.
13:36 < PerlJam> Anyway, RTAS was taking ~1500 seconds to display the results from the URL I gave above. That's a wee bit too long
13:37 < redwards> dbcooper: haha it is indeed a pretty crappy costume party for Val Kilmer
13:37 < dbcooper> It was as if they just reprised Val Kilmer's roles/costumes from a bunch of his old movies. Oooh, here he is as Jim Morrison...
13:38 < redwards> haha
13:38 < redwards> I'll take it that was the long hair one
13:38 < redwards> all his accents did indeed sound alike, though
13:39 < dbcooper> Ah. Truly insightful commentary from the depths of the internet: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120053/board/nest/98578361
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13:40 < dbcooper> dbcooper.stay_on_task--
13:40 < PerlJam> heh! I was just typing "focus dbcooper-san" :)
13:40 < dbcooper> PerlJam: So what was the reason that the response was delayed?
13:41 < PerlJam> dbcooper: it's spending all that time making SQL queries
13:41 < dbcooper> Woah. Es no bueno.
13:41 < PerlJam> nope.
13:41 < hamez> for RTAS? why?
13:42 < PerlJam> hamez: we call Pharos::IdList in a loop that loops over each line of the config file which is inside of a loop that loops over each line of an alert file which is inside of a loop that loops over each alert file.
13:43 * PerlJam ponders if it's worth mentioning big-O stuff to the students right now :)
13:44 < dbcooper> PerlJam: Was this a direct port from our existing RTAS--was our code already like this?
13:44 < PerlJam> anyway, I've taken some measures to mitigate the problem (see my recent commits)
13:44 < PerlJam> dbcooper: sort of. The original didn't pay the price of calling SQL each time and all items in question were in memory
13:45 < dbcooper> And its always worth mentioning big-O stuff to students. They *need* to learn this stuff.
13:45 < PerlJam> dbcooper: so, while it did do lots of iteration, they were often quicker for programs that needed to access these data structures alot
13:47 < PerlJam> One of the things worth noting is that I memoized the calls to IdList, IdClass, and StnAttr. This is only good so long as we don't seriously try to take advantage of fastcgi.
13:48 < PerlJam> (right now, we get 1 fastcgi process per request and they tend to die rather quickly because there aren't lots of requests. the more requests per second we have, the longer that process will stay around. If we use N processes that multiplies these problems N times)
13:49 < PerlJam> anyway, that's something important for you guys to be aware of.
13:50 < dbcooper> Tengo hambre!
13:51 < PerlJam> go eat!
13:51 < dbcooper> I'm having trouble paying attention to the messy code. Ok. Meeting over?
13:51 < PerlJam> yes. meeting over
13:51 < dbcooper> Hai!
Monday, 26 October 2009
13:00 < dbcooper> MEETING TIME!
13:00 < dbcooper> http://lighthouse.tamucc.edu/DNRNotes/ITMeetingTemplate
13:00 < jrod5> dbcooper: i know looks fun~
13:00 < PerlJam> dbcooper: I've been using the choose() subroutine for default values.
13:00 * redwards stands ready
13:01 < PerlJam> I don't see cashcraft
13:01 < dbcooper> Oh, yeah. [For later] how does the user specify those optional values in a catalyst-y way?
13:01 < PerlJam> afterefx: you're up!
13:01 < dbcooper> He's just jacked into the matrix.
13:01 -!- cashcraft [n=chase@cpe-70-123-183-237.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #dnr-is
13:01 < PerlJam> ah
13:01 < redwards> He just wanted to make you think he wasn't coming
13:01 < PerlJam> afterefx: belay that!
13:01 < PerlJam> cashcraft: you're up!
13:02 < cashcraft> sorry I'm late, we had some issues here with leaks and flooding, pass me up for now, I'm filling out the report
13:02 < PerlJam> afterefx: you're up again!
13:02 < redwards> @cashcraft: I wondered if this rain was causing any issues there...since you mentioned that floor stuff
13:03 < dbcooper> My adult diaper has fixed all of my "leaking" issues.
13:03 [Users #dnr-is]
13:03 [ afterefx ] [ dbcooper] [ j0hn ] [ PerlJam ] [ rysan]
13:03 [ cashcraft] [ hamez ] [ jrod5] [ redwards]
13:03 -!- Irssi: #dnr-is: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
13:03 < dbcooper> derail++. D'oh!
13:03 < dbcooper> Skip afterefx for now?
13:03 < PerlJam> my clock is still ticking for him.
13:04 < PerlJam> timeout on afterefx
13:04 < PerlJam> redwards: you're up!
13:04 < redwards> 1. 20
13:04 < redwards> 2. I spoke with dr. king again, though briefly. He's given me some ideas on what to leave out of my proposal and what to include in it. He's also suggested that I write the enter thing as if I've already done the project, that way I can use the 15 pages of the proposal in the 30 pages of the master's project report
13:04 < redwards> 3. Yeah, last week was very unproductive on this front. Lots of labs and homeworks were due that really kicked my butt
13:04 < redwards> 4. Not at the moment
13:04 < redwards> 5. I'd really like to get more done on the actually writing of the application
13:04 < redwards> 6. Not really that I can think of at the moment.
13:04 < redwards> ---_END_----
13:04 < PerlJam> jrod5: you're up
13:05 < jrod5> 1.)10
13:05 < jrod5> 2.)Got parser to run recursively through directories, Met with James,
13:05 < jrod5> 3.)Nope
13:05 < jrod5> 4.)Nope
13:05 < jrod5> 5.)Wednesday Code review, start reviewing catalyst
13:05 < jrod5> 6.)Nope
13:05 < jrod5> ---end---
13:05 < PerlJam> hamez: you're up!
13:05 < hamez> 2. Got samba working on Outhouse w/ authentication. Shared Drive set up for admin staff. Samba access to home directories on outhouse is now available.
13:05 < hamez> 3. Wanted to make more progress w/ pharos, but spent most of the week fighthing w/ openfiler and ldap.
13:05 < hamez> 4. Yes, code review w/ Josh @ 10 AM Wed, meet Wed. afternoon to get started w/ Catalyst.
13:05 < hamez> 5. Getting back to pharos messages, possibly stnmap
13:05 < hamez> 6. I have to go to a funeral today at 3 PM. Will be on vacation Thursday through next Monday.
13:05 < hamez> EOT
13:06 < PerlJam> dbcooper: you're up!
13:06 < dbcooper> 1. How many hours can you work this week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: N/A
13:06 < dbcooper> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: User support issues, benchmarks progress, meridian e-mail delivery issues (nfs outages), StnAttr.pm [pharosdb] debugging, pier21 switch, e-mail, conference call
13:06 < dbcooper> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: School (@#$&%! graphics), sleep deprivation.
13:06 < dbcooper> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:06 < dbcooper> A: I'd like to meet w/ Chase this week and get a status update.
13:06 < dbcooper> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: Catalyst benchmarks controller, field support, whateva
13:06 < dbcooper> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:06 < dbcooper> A: I'll be in class (regular times) on Tuesday and Thursday. All are on the calendar.
13:06 < dbcooper> EOL
13:07 < PerlJam> PerlJam: you're up!
13:07 < PerlJam> 1. 40+
13:07 < PerlJam> 2. Separated auto-loading routines from other in Pharos, did lots of work on Pha
13:07 < PerlJam> rosWeb stuff.
13:07 < PerlJam> 3. nope
13:07 < PerlJam> 4. Need to talk with it3d about PharosWeb deployment before Doug arrives.
13:07 < PerlJam> 5. Pharos/PharosWeb installation, other PharosWeb stuff
13:07 < PerlJam> 6. none.
13:07 < PerlJam> END OF LINE
13:07 < PerlJam> cashcraft: ready?
13:08 < hamez> $hamez_question_2 .= "GCOOS conference call, helped Deidre, IOOS webinar (sort of)"
13:08 < cashcraft> 1. How many hours can you work this week? (this one is really only for the students)
13:08 < cashcraft> -10 hours
13:08 < cashcraft> 2. What progress have you made on what you were working on last week?
13:08 < cashcraft> -Got my public and private keys working
13:08 < cashcraft> 3. Did you run into anything that's stopping you from making progress?
13:08 < cashcraft> -school as usual
13:08 < cashcraft> 4. Do you need some face time with one of IT3D? (or if you are IT3D, do you need any face time with a student?)
13:08 < cashcraft> -Probably should meet with Niall this week to get back on track with NCEP
13:08 < cashcraft> 5. What do you plan to work on this week?
13:08 < cashcraft> -see above
13:08 < cashcraft> 6. Is there anything else that we should be aware of? Any new business?
13:08 < cashcraft> -My house is imploding from the rain :(
13:08 < cashcraft> --end--
13:08 < redwards> @cashcraft: lol that looks like -10 hours :P
13:09 < PerlJam> okay, anyone besides me have anything they want to discuss?
13:09 < redwards> PerlJam: school should be canceled due to the rain.
13:10 < PerlJam> redwards: above, did you mean that your proposal is only 15 pages long? or just that section?
13:11 < redwards> PerlJam: my proposal is just a mess of thoughts at the moment. Dr. King when making the point said that 'write your 15 pages of your propsal (meaning it'd be a total of 15, but I think he was just using an arbitrary number) such that you can use those 15 for half of the report that's 30 pages'
13:12 < PerlJam> redwards: let me know when you've got anothre draft for me to read. :)
13:12 < redwards> alright
13:12 < PerlJam> redwards: and FWIW, my proposal was about 20 pages long and I thought it was too short.
13:13 < PerlJam> usually, if your proposal is short, you just haven't gone into enough detail about what you intend to do.
13:13 < redwards> I'll bear that in mind
13:14 < PerlJam> remember that the members of your committee, while they may be super-smart and know everything about CS, they may have *no* idea what your project is about. (even remotely) So you generally have to explain *everything*
13:15 < PerlJam> (also, other people who are not on your committee will be reading your proposal perhaps)
13:15 * hamez will :-)
13:15 < PerlJam> redwards: and typically the proposal is all future-tense, while the project report is past tense
13:16 < redwards> PerlJam: that's kind of what dr. King told me to avoid
13:16 < redwards> he basically said write your proposal as if you've already written the program so you can use the proposal in the report
13:16 < PerlJam> redwards: also fwiw, my project report was 42 pages (not counting appendices :)
13:17 < PerlJam> redwards: do whatever your chair tells you, he's responsible for you, not me :)
13:18 < redwards> haha
13:18 < redwards> I'm probably gonna do it such that I don't use much 'tense' at all
13:18 < redwards> that way I can easily bend it either way
13:18 < PerlJam> redwards: however, I will note that word tense was a big deal back when I got my MS. The members of my committee always seemed to carp about it.
13:19 < redwards> ah
13:19 < redwards> makes sense I suppose
13:20 < hamez> is someone planning on going to the ITS presentation on Thurs?
13:20 < dbcooper> I was contemplating doing so.
13:21 < hamez> cool, I would definitely go, but I will be on my way to San Antonio to pick up Steph's parents
13:21 < PerlJam> dbcooper: I think it's more important that you spend time playing with Catalyst and things relating to getting Pharos up and running
13:22 < dbcooper> So are you going to the presentation?
13:22 < hamez> it'd probably be good to have one of us go
13:22 < PerlJam> dbcooper: yes, I'll go.
13:22 < dbcooper> Ok.
13:23 < PerlJam> dbcooper, hamez: the three of us need to talk about deploying Pharos before Doug gets here. When is a good time to meet?
13:24 < PerlJam> s/Pharos/PharosWeb/
13:24 < hamez> tomorrow morning?
13:24 < PerlJam> wfm. what time?
13:24 < hamez> 9?
13:25 < dbcooper> That'll work for me.
13:25 < PerlJam> 9am tomorrow morning then.
13:26 < PerlJam> In 3404. I do need to get out of my office more.
13:26 < PerlJam> :)
13:27 < PerlJam> dbcooper, hamez: What are you guys working on today? Are there any blockers that I can help unblock?
13:28 < dbcooper> I'm working on Catalyst benchmarks. Can you make the rain stop so I can go pickup some lunch? :)
13:29 * cashcraft does a raindance to stop the rain
13:29 < hamez> I'm working on messages, but only for a while longer before I have to go and get ready for the funeral
13:29 < dbcooper> Wow, its clearing up.
13:30 < cashcraft> <--- magic
13:30 < redwards> +5 to Will?
13:30 < PerlJam> ah, dbcooper-san, this is the lesson of planning. It's been on the news since early yesterday (at least!) that we were going to have some rain today. You should have planned for that :)
13:30 < PerlJam> hamez: oh yeah, who died btw?
13:31 < PerlJam> hamez: (and make sure you fill out a leave request)
13:31 < hamez> Steve Shultz, he's the father of a good friend of Steph and I
13:32 < hamez> he died from complications of H1N1, there was a frind page article on the caller times about it
13:32 < hamez> s/frind/front/
13:32 < PerlJam> Bummer. Well, at least the rain has cleared up somewhat.
13:33 < hamez> http://www.caller.com/news/2009/oct/23/first-h1n1-related-death-san-patricio-co/
13:33 < PerlJam> I remember going to Rizzo's sister's funeral several years ago. There was stormy weather that day but it happened just after the funeral while everyone was still out in the open.
13:33 < dbcooper> Wow. Firetruck.
13:33 < redwards> it hasn't cleared up here at all
13:33 < redwards> its just as bad as it was 5 minutes ago :(
13:33 < PerlJam> dbcooper: yeah, what's up with that? I can hear the sirens from my office.
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13:34 < dbcooper> I saw an ambulance as well.
13:34 < PerlJam> heh, other people here are talkign about the firetruck+ambulance too :)
13:34 < hamez> whoah: http://www.caller.com/news/2009/oct/26/nearly-1800-customers-without-power-san-pat-co/
13:35 < hamez> 81mph wind gust!
13:36 < PerlJam> anyway, meeting ajourned if no one has anything else
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